The complete schedule is here.
Monday, November 10th
Convocation: “We Have Every Right to Be Against this War”Salomon 001, 7-9 pm
Pre-convocation Dinner Faculty Advising Fellow Home 22 Benevolent Street, 5-6:30 (RSVP to miles_hovis@brown.edu)Chhaya Choum of CAAAV (Organizing Asian Communities in New York City) speaks about her experience as a war refugee in the US and why people of color, especially Southeast Asians, must be at the forefront of the anti-war movement.
Tuesday, November 11th
YELLOW, BROWN, and BLACK: Resisting Xenophobia, Fighting Raids and DeportationPanel (6-8pm) Salomon 001, 6-9 pm
Action Meeting (8-9pm) Faculty Fellow Home on 38 CharlesfieldA two part event: First, a cross-cultural panel of immigrants’ rights organizers, lawyers, anti-deportation activists, and family members of deportees in order in a dialog about our country’s increasing xenophobia and anti-immigrant legislation. Second, a student immigrant organizer leads an action meeting to begin organizing Brown students against Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Chiz-I never heard of anyone,from any country deported for public urination.Was there a charge of public lewdness?I guess you could be deported for that.I don’t know for sure.
Shoplifting is larceny,and remember I’ve been retired twelve years as of this past Sunday,so maybe things have changed.When I was on the job,a single shoplifting conviction was normally waived.
There are professional shoplifters who work in crews and travel from state to state.They normally only plead out to misdemeanors,but are actually professional criminals.I have to say I never ran across any Southeast Asian shoplifting crews-most were East European,Mexican,Venezuelan,etc.I don’t think professional shoplifting is a minor offense.
Did you mean”indigent” teenager-“indignant” left me a little confused-I know I make some bad typos here.
I recall you saying you were Southeast Asian on another,less serious thread.
You are aware I am sure of some really dangerous criminals in that community involved in gang activity,extortion,and home invasions mainly targeting other Southeast Asians.Do you really want that element to avoid deportation?Obviously as time goes by most gang members will have been born here or naturalized so the issue will be moot.
I actually did my job conscientiously and cared less about “dibs”-most of the 12 years I was assigned to RI was spent apprehending criminal aliens(mostly felons),smugglers,fraud arrangers,and mainly drug traffickers-I spent nine years assigned to drug enforcement and I never deported people for Mickey Mouse reasons.Actually the Immigration Court deported people,not the INS-we charged the individuals,and it followed a similar course to a criminal prosecution with certain differences.
You get no argument from me about the incompetent bureaucracy that had run INS and now DHS,of which ICE is a part.It was the most inefficient and worst managed agency in the government.
Do you have a suggestion who should be enforcing immigration laws?Nobody has come up with a better alternative.If I run into you at Lucky Garden some time and you have an hour or two to spare I can tell you how truly screwed up the INS was.
The original issue about the interpreters had me wondering why both were laid off.Since none of the Southeast Asians in this area seem to have entered the country illegally,and most came as refugees(in other words invited to come and stay) it didn’t strike me as unusaul that interpreters should be available.
Was there an underutilization of the interpreters?They should have retained at least one.
actually joe, there were southeast asians who were deported for minute offenses such as public urination or shoplifting. i suppose you can argue that a crime is a crime but how many of us never peed in public when we were drunk or shoplifted as indignant teenagers? are these offenses really so bad as to break up families over? you as an ins worker are only concerned with keeping dibs over these immigrants but imagine the personal anguish that these families go through. plus we all can attest to INS’s incompetence and ineffectiveness. such a beaurocratic and inefficient agency should not decide the fate of others
So let’s see?A Colombian,Dominican,Guatemalan,Portugese-whatever-gets convicted of a serious crime and is deported,whether or nor they are a resident alien.That’s the law-you don’t like it?Tough.Try to change it if you can,but even most amnesty advocates aren’t going to carry water for convicted criminals.Maybe you will,David,but you’ll be pissing in the wind.Now along come the Southeast Asians,who for all the years I was on the job,were virtually immune from deportation for criminal convictions because the US had no relations with their home countries.BTW refugee status is not available to criminals.After normalization of relations resumed,the organized whining started when the law took its course and Southeast Asian criminals were deported.What makes them any better than another nationality(ies)?
The law is about equal treatment for comparable offenses.
Now I am NOT against the Southeast Asians having come here and continuing to do so.I believe 90% of them are law abiding people who contribute to our culture and at the same time assimilate while not abandoning their traditions.Just what immigration should be about.
David-I hope you realize that most of the Southeast Asian criminals targeted for deportation terrorized their very own communities.Does the term “home invasion”mean anything to you?Who do you think the victims are?Not you,pal.
I am unaware of any Southeast Asians who had no convictions being placed under deportation proceedings.
Now I am sure some cretin will call me a xenophobe,but I expect it,so go ahead and sound ignorant to your heart’s content.