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As of this second, Maine voters have approved gay marriage by a margin of 52-47 with 14% of precincts reporting, according to the live election news feed at the Bangor Daily News. If voters vote no (to ban gay marriage; no means yes, in other words) then it will be the first time that gay marriage has been approved when put to a popular vote.
Bay Windows reported nineteen minutes ago that the Yes On 1 (anti-gay) people were winning, so it appears to be neck and neck. In more distressing news, Bay Windows also reports that a band playing at the Holiday Inn in Portland just broke out into ‘their rendition of Men at Work’s “Break My Stride.”‘ Because apparently Bay Windows doesn’t like factchecking and/or thinks every musician from the 80’s is interchangeable.
(In case you didn’t know, Men At Work were a band who came from a land down under. Matthew Wilder is one man who comes from New York.)
I have never suggested treating homosexuals as second class citizens. I’m just opposed to letting them redefine marriage. I’m well aware that they play an indespensible role in our society. They are good people who struggle with their sexual identity.
Perhaps I would, Rob. You’re welcome to believe what you wish. And I’m welcome to believe that you are treating nearly 10% of Americans as second-class citizens because you can only focus on one thing: what they do in the privacy of their own homes. Because they don’t seem very “perverse” when they’re saving lives (a Providence firefighter I know) or helping to create and regulate state laws (Rhode Island’s House Majority Leader) or entertaining you (a list longer than my arm of actors and comedians and even athletes).
And I was referring to Bible quotes distributed by the same-sex marriage opposers in Maine in their campaign to oppress their brothers and sisters who only want to make a commitment to their life partners; I never said –you- quoted the Bible in your comments. This post was originally about the vote in Maine, before I hijacked it.
I don’t pick and choose what i believe from the Bible. I take the Bible in it’s entirety and don’t just quote random verses. Come to think of it, I haven’t quoted the Bible in this forum at all. My objections to so-called same-sex marriage have just as much basis in biology and ethics as they do in my religious beliefs. for the record, I don’t think homosexuality is “icky”, I think it is unnatural and perverse. You would have an easier time convincing me that 1 plus 1 equals three than you would that homosexualty is normal, natural and healthy.
Now now, no need for name-calling. I think it’s great that Rob is having conversations about this, even if he isn’t looking for meaning or enlightenment in them. There are just some people who call people like me “cafeteria Catholics” for “picking and choosing” things I “like” from the Bible (like how Jesus says a billion times to love your brothers and sisters, verus a random quote here or there before Jesus’ time saying that maybe one or two folks think male homosexuality is an abomination–since all random quotes from over 2,000 years ago MUST immediately be placed into effect in American law) while themselves picking and choosing the things they like from the bible. That same chapter, Leviticus, that calls homosexuality an abomonation also says this:
“9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination. Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.”
But funny, I don’t see anyone lobbying to make it illegal to eat shellfish.
It all boils down to thinking two people of the same gender having sex is icky. That’s all this ever is. It’s why no one has a problem with me and my husband being married despite not having children because we have the “right” body parts, even if we’re not living up to our potential with them. It’s why the “sanctity” of marriage is supposedly threatened by being extended to two people of the same gender while heterosexual marriages in America enjoy a 50% divorce rate (and in Rob’s bible, BTW, Moses had 3 wives. David had 8. Jesus had zero).
I’d find it amusing that people with irrational fears of same-sex marriage are so incredibly hypocritical, if I didn’t find it so incredibly sad.
Perhaps I should not jump to conclusions.
It’s also crossed my mind that you could just be fantastically stupid.
Not sure how being opposed to so-called same-sex marriage makes me a bigot. Nor is my Bible stained, nor do i own a whip. Why the animosity?
Don’t get me wrong, Rob. I really wanted to believe in you, and you did have me going for awhile. But I eventually saw that your sincerity is fake, and you’re not the nice Christian boy you pretend to be, but just another bigot with a stained Bible in one hand and a worn whip in the other. You are the ugliness that has brought so much shame to this nation’s history.
good comeback wess
Grow up, Rob.
Well, that’s why I said ‘as of this second’ and provided a link to the site that was doing the live stream, if anyone wanted to follow what was happening.
Well, it’s wednesday morning and the votes have been counted. Maine repealed the law which would have allowed so-called gay-marriage. Maybe wait until the votes are counted next time Matt.
Maine becomes the 31st state to reject so-called same-sex marriage and/or define true marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Thanks be to God!